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Grenfell bonfire

Discussion in 'Cardiff City Forum' started by LordKenwyne, Nov 6, 2018.

  1. Splott Dave

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    Meanwhile from the inquiry we still have the following potential disasters:

    "Assessments of other private and public buildings over 18 m high in the UK has so far found 323 have non-compliant cladding."
     

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    It is in sick taste, but should know better than show it on social media.........that's the world we live in these days.

    Not as bad as the 'so called' sentence for this sick fucker https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-46043756
     
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    A Poor joke

    Nothing else

    A Shame the fucking snowflakes are taking over
     
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    Same old Tories?

     

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    What has politics to do with these sick fuckers? 2 are members of local conservative party 3 others aren't. Why not "same old socialists"as a question? This country is more divisive and "tribal" than ever and everything has to be politicised like this to encourage an argument.
     
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    Spot on Hilly. Spot fucking on.
     

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    Surely if political ideology played no part in their behaviour or attitudes, the description by neighbours of them appearing to be nationalistic would be irrelevant? Also there would be no justification for two of them to have been suspended from their local Conservative Club. It was political indifference from the local Tory council, which allowed this disaster at Grenfell Tower to happen in the first place.

    Of course the country is divided. As is society itself. You only have to look at the way society has been divided over the last twenty years or so by delusional Tory lite, 'New Labour' and the following catastrophe of a socially divisive and destructive Tory government.
     
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    What's the neighbours opinion of the (majority) the other three? And when did titlle tattle from wannabies becone fact? As I say everything politicised just to stir up arguments. As to Tory indifference. Labour lowered the bar with regards to standards on the materials and approvals in 2006 .another fuck up by Blair and Gordon "I've brought an end to Tory boom and bust economics" Brown. I don't see the street protests against those two killers. Same with that Commie Terrorist sympathiser laying wreaths at the senotaph today. Skin of a Rhino to pretend to honour defenders of this country while encouraging and endorsing those that want to kill us!! Left Right shit is what is bringing this country down. All for the sake of perception of being seen in the most pious gang. At the end of the day 5 sick fuckers made a very sick joke and should be dealt with accordingly. To turn it into party politics again is simply doing the same as happened when the fire itself happened. May as well wheel out that Uber Principled drug abusing Socialist Lilly Allen for some further reasoned comment!! Or the world renowned bigoted mathmatician that poses as an MP! They both made fantastic and constructive comments back then .
     
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    We will have to agree to disagree, as I'm not about to attempt to untangle your confused and rambling response.
     
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    Nothing confused or rambling Dave. But happy to leave it there too :thumbup:
     
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    Swansea?
     
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    Lidl's. He's Marks n Sparks wanker :hehe:
     

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    Well if the effects of whatever you were smoking earlier have now worn off. Perhaps you could explain how invoking 2006 announcements regarding zero carbon emissions for new buildings, in line with EU directives, has anything to do with Lily Allen, or allegations about Commie Socialists?

    I find it rather bizarre that someone makes an overtly political post, while at one and the same time complaining that there isn't a perception of a political dimension, in an incident which has invoked a highly politicised tragedy.
     

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    The overtly political post was to show how ridiculous it was politicising it in the 1st place. The reference to 2006 was quite simple. You said it was Tory indifference that resulted in the fire. I merely pointed out that the criteria for the materials and their use was relaxed by the last labour government (to balance the reference) you can find enough reference online to confirm that Blair and Brown (part of the sanctimonious sector of British politics according to the majority of keyboard warriors) royally fucked up on dumbing down the regulations and testing of cladding. If you want you can add to it the ludicrous EU rules on subsidising spending on such buildings. Their mentality is to increase the aesthetics of poor areas and increase the U value to save the world from global warming and they’ll return UK funds to contribute to such works on a matched funding type basis, but they won’t contribute to fire safety works (such as a sprinkler system which is so obviously needed in these buildings) to save 300 occupiers. Creating an extremely tenuous political link to some amoebas who created the effigy deserved to have such a reply. As I’ve expanded on things I’ll now go back to my earlier comment and leave it there for you. And as for insuating I was stoned etc. I find that the typically offensive attitude of the extreme left identity politics in this country. I don’t smoke, I don’t take any form of recreational drugs and never have indulged in either. And my current weekly intake of two to three bottles of beer shouldn’t be too difficult for my brain to tolerate. As I say I’ll leave it there as the whole Tory reference was a complete farce and a cheap attempt to politicise and associate a few individuals crass behaviour to a political party.
     
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    Build a bonfire, build a bonfire fire, put Trundle on the top. Put Tatey in the middle and burn the fucking lot.
     
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    Bit offensive mate! :hehe:
     

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    The casual racists that i know vote labour. they dont really understand what theyre doing but will vote labour because thatll benefit them
     
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    I was watching the wreath laying ceremony this morning at the cenotaph and it struck me that you could get Corbyn measured up at a saville row tailors for an event like this and he would still look like a bag of shit tied around the middle 15 minutes later
     

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    You've had three stabs at this now and failed to provide any evidence at all to substantiate claims that a government in 2006, was responsible for a refurbishment that was carried out in 2016, some ten years later.

    "You said it was Tory indifference that resulted in the fire. I merely pointed out that the criteria for the materials and their use was relaxed by the last labour government"

    The Grenfell Action Group (GAG) published a blog listing all of the occasions that they had contacted the Conservative dominated, (since 1964) Kensington and Chelsea London Borough Council, the owners of Grenfell Tower, about their concerns regarding safety issues at the building.

    https://grenfellactiongroup.wordpress.com/2017/06/14/grenfell-tower-fire/

    Things got so bad between the council and residents, that in 2013 the council threatened the GAG's blogger with legal action, accusing them of 'defamatory behaviour' and 'harassment'.

    The evidence that the Tory council which owned the building, was indifferent to the concerns of the people who actually lived there, is completely overwhelming. The notion that somehow you can attribute any form of blame to a Labour government of 2006, to substandard refurbishments carried out by the Tory council in 2016, is somewhat fanciful at best.
     

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    Maybe I should have thrown in Brendan Rodgers too :shrug2:
     
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