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How long before Macron is gone?

Discussion in 'Cardiff City Forum' started by Splott Dave, Dec 4, 2018.

  1. TH63

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    "bled the UK dry" ? Please, have a word with yourself, that is the kind of absolute nonsense I would attribute to Boris Johnson and Nigel Farage, not an intelligent man like yourself.

    The UK annual "fee" to the EU is £18bn (Put into context, we spend £125bn on the NHS)

    Of course, we don't actually "pay" that amount, we get a £6bn rebate)

    Then of course, the EU sends money back to the poorest areas of the UK, three guesses which of the poorest areas gets most of that?

    Going forward, we will have to rely on the generosity of the Tories.

    Because that's worked out ever so well for Wales in the past hasn't it?


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    Fortunately we are a wealthy country, so "bled dry" was not accurate. All the same, a net £12bn outgoing over so many years could have been used in directly home-funded projects within the UK. I think that would be the equivalent of six Brynglas resolutions in just one year. Without that net outgoing and also the huge administrative costs of dealing with Brussels, who knows what might have been achieved in the past 45 years?
     
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    I think that I’ve already demonstrated that our contributions to the EU are a drop in the ocean.
    When you weigh up the positive impact of trade, security, free healthcare in Europe (costs me £100 a year on US health insurance for example), having a say in EU legislation and immigration, which contrary to popular belief, is a nett benefit to the economy, it’s beginning to look like good value for money.
     
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    They make all other protesters look amateurish and disinterested. They are the undisputed heavyweight champions of the protest world and any President that doesn't listen won't last a strawberry season when the French public are all in. I'm not surprised they are pissed off it costs a fortune to live in France at the moment. Big business is doing very nicely but the ordinary folks not so much. They wont suck on that like we Brits do. Not at all. No chance whatsoever.
     
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    So even less than the 54 then?

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    That's not quite true. Macron has said nothing. It is the PM Philippe who appears to have taken the lead.

    Macron is in trouble as he has done a complete about face on policy since he was elected. The French friends we have are livid.
     

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    We appear to have two completely political and societal cultures between Britain and the other countries in the EU. Here, our politicians get into a frenzy of activity, chopping and changing seemingly by the hour at present, while the general population look on as casual spectators. Whereas in mainland Europe it is the politicians who move slowly, oh so slowly, and it's the public who seem filled with passion and dynamism along with frenetic activity.
     
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    It seems that way. One of Mrs TDA's friends called by yesterday and by the time she left, she was positively apoplectic about the recent shift in tax burden.
     

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    Your mission Jim, should you choose to accept it, is to repeat ad nauseam the phrases, 'Are you scared' 'You seem scared' and occasionally suggest a thinly veiled 'I'm petrified about a second referendum.' in any future discussions on Brexit.

    I admit it's an onerous task, but I can't think of another single poster on here that's more suited to it.

    Our good wishes, support and encouragement will always be with you.

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    The French have a history of revolution, storming bastilles and such like.

    Over here, apart from a handful, we appear to generally having resigned ourselves to the fact that no matter who we vote for, they're only in it for themselves, cannot be trusted and, as our french friends might say, plus ca change.
     
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    Not just the French, the Germans have a habit of wandering around trashing European countries completely uninvited, and they took the whole thing very seriously.

    It would appear that in Britain we expect journalists, TV news presenters and politicians to do all of the heavy lifting, while we, the electorate studiously prefer to pay more attention to Strictly Come Dancing and I'm a Celebrity Get Me Out Of Here.
     

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    The destruction of the trade unions saw to that. Thatcher always knew that if the NUM were out of the way the others would crumble, and they did, The miners always led the fight for the working classes in this country, when they went, so did the fight.
     
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    Did you see it last night? That woman in a hole with the rats. She was scared.
     
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    No I didn't. I've been offered the opportunity on many occasions, but I've always declined. Preferring my own company and a quiet meal of broken glass.
     

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    And that’s the same bunch you expected to make a thorough economic study prior to making one of the most decisions that this country has faced in fifty years, the impact of which will be felt for another fifty.
     
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