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Is it offensive to quote Churchill now?

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  1. Colonel Cardiffi

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    Exaggeration to call it offensive but Britain should recognise it's history of colonialism and exploiting other countries
     
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    I for one think we should erase from history all the people who we don't like these days (we can have a televised vote on BBC One whereby one historical figure gets axed each Saturday evening and all books/film/quotes/internet pages get burnt on a giant Liberation Bonfire™ so we can finally live in a world of sunshine & rainbows.
     
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    As Joe E Brown so famously said to Jack Lemmon at the end of "Some Like It Hot"...... "Nobody's perfect!"
     
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    The history of the human race (from prehistoric times) is based on persecution, displacement, annexation and racism. Maybe just a little out of context to single out the UK and Churchill.
     
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    I see that quoted a lot but I've looked for evidence that he actually said it and never found any.
     
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    That’ll be because there isn’t any to find.
    Yes he deployed troops, as backup to the old bill if required. They weren’t.
     
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    Righto. So we ruined the world by colonising places, which we started doing in the 1600's, and Winston Churchill is a large reason for that, despite being born in 1874.

    It's not like anyone else was colonising places before we invented it, either. Apparently.

    And there's nowhere else on the planet the guy could live because Britain's impact is such that everywhere else is racist.

    What a helmet.
     
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    The human race is doomed. We are stupid monkeys with nuclear buttons.
     
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    It's a perfect storm Woody. We agree on something at last.

    :hehe:
     
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    I doubt you could imagine what it must be like to discover that a historical figure you look up to and venerate did some horrendous things. Can you?
     
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    Ima be real, I actually looked up to Muhammad Bin Qasim. And then found out he was dodgy too
     
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    I’m not sure he did actually say it to be honest, but like you I’ve heard it quoted many times. Just wanted to add a little fuel.
     
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    Maybe he said bread and the guy from The Sport thought he said lead.
     
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    It is widely accepted, but should also be recognised as a two way street. If it wasn't for colonisation, many countries would still be living in the Stone Age.

    It's surely about getting history in the right perspective and looking at the mutual benefits, not just banging any old drum. If it wasn't colonisation, it would be something else. Some people these days just like being indignant and/or offended.
     
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