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More light thrown onto Sala plane ownership

Discussion in 'Cardiff City Forum' started by Arfur Ap Llewellyn Europe, 11 Feb 2019.

  1. Charlie

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    Will this get muddied as he would have to be registered to the Welsh FA as well, or doesn't that count anymore?
    Cant remember if we are still under the WFA.
     
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    I would have thought ratification by FIFA wouldn't impact the contractual obligations between the parties
     
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    And there I think lays the possible issue, I certainly have no idea either but I can see how it might cause a grey area.
     
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    We're experts on here.
    We can deal with this.

    The planes insurance would be paying out wouldn't it? Not the club's.
    If the planes insurance company find someone did something wrong then the owners would be culpable for the money
     
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    Surely these are separate issues?

    The plane itself would have to be insured, presumably, so the owner, whoever that is, claims for the value of the plane.

    The passengers, would have their own travel/life insurance?

    The player, as an asset, would be insured by the club?

    Naturally, one would expect the various insurance companies to be trying their best to establish if the policy(s) have been voided (wriggle out of playing up)

    I see no reason for the club to withhold payment to Nantes. Contract was signed, as far as I'm aware, on that Saturday he was a Cardiff player. Nantes did their bit, we did ours, he traveled back on his on dime as it were.
     
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    If its proven the pilot didn't have the correct license to fly, which is being questioned, the insurance companies wont be paying fuck all to anyone as any insurance would be invalid surely!
     
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    That last half sentence seems to being overlooked a lot
     
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    Again, I'm no expert, but what would happen if I let someone, who didn't have a licence, drive my car and write it off. Chances are, not only would I be well out of pocket, I might also be in a world of shit with plod.

    In terms of the CCFC policy on Sala, then none of us know what is included and what is excluded from that policy so it's pointless speculating
     
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    With potentially a claim of £16m, any insurance company is going to wriggle and look for a way to avoid payment. The transfer was subject to international clearance and registration as per the announcement by the club. If they didn't happen because of the weekend, then he wasn't a Cardiff player and couldn't be insured by the club.
     
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    if that is what the contract says, then that is fair enough. but FIFA registration may or may not be included within the contract.

    I would suggest we let the lawyers sort this out, as we are so bereft of the facts, we may as well being pissing in the wind
     
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    I think this is where the clarification is needed before anyone pays anything. I'm sure that this is the sort of incident that is going to make major changes in transfer dealings and acceptable forms of transporting such valuable assets. Never happened before so precedent's are going to be set around this incident.
     
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    I know what I said was just speculation and FIFA ratification is probably a formality, but it is a moot point all the same.
     
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    I wonder what happened with payments in the Munich air crash.
    For the first 10 years the pilot was blamed for not de icing the wings.

    Then 10 years later, it was blamed on slush on the runway, which is airports fault.
     
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    No idea at all what happened the:shrug2: All I do know is that although lives were lost, players were worth £100's /£1000's back then and there wasn't the same sort of blame culture that we have today. Also all that revolved around 1 club where players were all clearly contracted to Man Utd and on a chartered flight. Our situation differs hugely as it involves 2 clubs and a timeline that seems a little unsure as to who the player was registered with.

    The inquest starts today so hopefully we should get the answers we all want soon enough and then it will be clearer as to who pays what to who.
     
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    Inquest says Sala died of head and chest injuries. Heartbreaking.
     
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    I don't think any of those players had been signed in the preceding 48 hours.
     
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    First thought is that it's better than drowning. I assume that means he died before the plane hit the water.
     
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    Only blessing is that it was probably quick
     
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    You'd imagine so yeah, hope it was swift
     

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