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Discussion in 'Cardiff City Forum' started by Arfur Ap Llewellyn Europe, 14 Mar 2019.
Summed up nicely here:
It could also be seen as the level of arrogance of Welsh speakers in Wales
Oxfam worker 'tells Welsh-speaking family to stop speaking foreign language'
Absolutely disgraceful. Happens a lot, but thankfully it's being called out each and every time thanks to Social Media.
Welsh, is from the Germanic root wealh meaning foreigner. Ergo listening to 'Welsh' is literally listening to a foreign language.
English is a language spoken in Wales, so is clearly part of its culture. Clearly those who dont appreciate the etymology of the world Welsh dont understand Anglo-Welsh culture either.
Y cymry, y cymro or similar means countryman - those who speak the language. It was never referenced where a person was born, but whether they spoke the Welsh language or not e.g. yr hen gogledd.
Basically, being Welsh is about speaking the language, not where you are born.
Oh dear me
I thought you portrayed yourself as an intelligent chap, but that takes the biscuit.
The Germanic and French invaders to these Isles were one of the most recent events here. Despite their number, and their victories in the majority of what then became England, they were much later arrivals than the Celts, Gaels and Picts, who were the original Britons. Hence the name.
The victors always rewrite history unfortunately, so their use of 'Foreigner' to the indigenous peoples of these islands, is fascinating insofar as this was the earliest example of 'misinformation' and Fake News that I have yet stumbled across.
"It didn't happen" of the year awards spring to mind.
This ^ it’s probably did happen once, but it juts gets regurgitated with a different scenario. Last time it was on a bus, before that a train.......
Someone makes something up on Twatter and the appers start frothing.
I agree with the sentiment though. Plenty of Welsh people fall over themselves to deride Welsh culture, language, politics even sporting achievements.
We are our own worst enemy sometimes.
I love wibble , but not wibblers
Give me a weeble every day of the week they wobble but they don’t fall down. I would rather have a weeble in the trenches with me than a wibbler anytime wibblers are indeed cunts
You missed the point by a country mile. It was very tongue in cheek you lackwit.
Welsh, quite literally, means foreign.
In the same way loegyr, England, means lost land, in Welsh (so some claim)
And your synopsis is wrong. The celts were the 2nd group of peoples to arrive at these islands, followed by the romans, angles, saxons, jutes, Danes, Normans, Jews and French hugenots, and then everyone else in the 20th century.
As a matter of interest,other than the language what exactly is it that makes Welsh culture unique?
Are you Welsh?
Being bed ridden with a virus ,I got nothing else to do but read, i read up on some welsh stuff yesterday. I stumbled on owain glyndwyr, I will never set foot in the pub in Cardiff of the same name now.
terrorist. Burnt our city down to try and oust the English, who were the rightful occupants.
Had his comeuppance tho, got defeated and never seen again.
Seen a couple shagging on the floor in the Owain Glyndwr pub one Saturday night in 1983, big crowd gathered around them as they got it on.
This is the Welsh culture that I know.